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began? At what moment do you think all genetic information is in place to create a human life? Does God consider it a sin to intentionally snuff out innocent human life?”
When I got sober on Sept. 11, 11 years ago — I experienced a string of catastrophic miracles, spine-tingling evidence of what I now call God in my life. Around this time I found my younger brother’s body, bloated and purple with lividity — and I began my spiritual search. And yes, I am absolutely sure of the answers to these questions. But I don’t want to impose my discoveries on you without some background, and this is not the place. I have written extensively on life, love, death, faith and spirit — and my humiliating adventures in spiritual growth.
For me the key is in Christ�s words and the meaning behind his parables. We are eternal and spiritual. And God is love. Love is an actual energy — where you put your thoughts, there your heart is. If we were all to focus only on the good, the love in each other, we would create heaven on earth. It’s here, we just can’t see it, but some can when they change their perspective. And in this expression, as a reflection of God, we come into form to express God�s qualities through man, an idea. Man was made in God’s image, which is spiritual. Since the human body seems to be made of finite matter or dust (as in �we return to dust�) then the actual body is not that important. You cannot kill spirit. So putting so much emphasis on the fetus as �life� when the body itself does not contain �life� the soul does, is wrong to me. Soul never dies, cannot be killed, is at-one-with God (atonement.) Is killing pro-life? Wars cause more damage to the families left fatherless, motherless and without their loved ones. The spirit lives on and becomes one with love, with or without the body. Also, when you raise your consciousness, you see that death and suffering are a mortal illusion. Life is spiritual and eternal.
I feel God can be proved through science — because thought and love are energy and are molecular… But more about this in several books that are coming out in the next year. Through my own horrific crash and burn I was forced to find these answers on a very personal level. I explain this better on my website. Have to go, my kids are home and we are decorating the tree tonight —love,Lydia
COMMENT #293 [Permalink]… Autarkis said on 12/9/2005 @ 4:44 pm PT…ANDIEZ I Am A Fisherman and When My Line Hits The Water I Feel Alive in My Soul Freedom Poster
Big K: One more thing, this Sunday on MSNBC at 9PM they’re going to be having a full hour on the Jihad in Iraq. Based on a brief plug with the journalist behind it, it will be covering issues like how our invasion is increasing recruiting for al-Qaida. They’re talking to supporters of the war, critics, and even some jihadis.
It was good talking to you as well. Maybe I’ll run into you one day in BF2. When I get a better graphics card.
COMMENT #294 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/9/2005 @ 5:56 pm PT…
Wow,
The woman is certifiable. Let us kill the kids because their bodies are not that important, just their spiritual selves. That argument could be used to justify killing all over the place. With that I see you are a lost cause, Ms Cornell. I sincerely hope for the best for you, and that your spiritual journey will put you in the presence of God someday. I honestly think you need to listen to yourself sometime though. That was the nuttiest thing I have heard on this or any other blog. Seriously, talk like that in front of the wrong people in a hospital would get you in a straight jacket on interesting drugs. That is nonsense.
Autarkis, your powers of intellect were wasted defending this one. If I get a chance Sunday I will try to catch that special, but I got lots of studying to do for finals the next day. See you in bf2, hopefully.
See the rest of you guys later. I may check in to see if Ms. Cornell is going to call me more names after not reading my posts. But I hope for the best for all. Merry Christmas.
COMMENT #295 [Permalink]… Maxmixt said on 12/9/2005 @ 8:31 pm PT…
Lydia — As a recovering Catholic, I couldn’t agree with you more. You put it so profoundly, but you can’t expect people to get it — at least people here on this post. They are not seeking. When you seek you find. Very enlightened! I can’t wait to read your books. I also found God on a very personal level through tragedy. Max
COMMENT #296 [Permalink]… Merifour said on 12/9/2005 @ 9:32 pm PT…
#303 Lydia, I have often read that a spiritual awakening comes when one has hit bottom, has no where else to go, then begins to question. That is exactly what happened to me. I absolutely agree with your comments. I prayed continuously for guidance and was shown so much. Question after question was answered. I soon became aware that the answers would come in the most unexpected ways. I wanted to share what was happening to me but no one understood, I don’t think people do unless they have experienced what we have. I felt like I was putting together a puzzle, had alot of ‘aha’ moments, then realized I had only gotten a small piece of the puzzle. I traveled my journey alone…With God as my teacher, speaking to me through meditation, books, and people. I am still on the journey, have taken a detour right now and gotten caught up in the politics of world. But I believe we are undergoing a planetary initiation at this time, as has happened many times in the history of earth. Some will ‘graduate’, some will not. That is okay. We are a microcosm within the macrocosm, what is happening here is happening in the cosmos. A war is being waged in the world of Spirit as well as well as in matter, a war for our very Souls. As above, so below. M4
COMMENT #297 [Permalink]… Maxmixt said on 12/9/2005 @ 10:27 pm PT…
Sorry about your brother. I lost my brother too.Don’t let the primitive thinkers drag you down. Our thoughts really do create our reality. Did you read Wayne Dyer’s ‘Your See It When you Believe it”? Great book. Great wisdom. Thank you.
COMMENT #298 [Permalink]… Kevin said on 12/10/2005 @ 1:34 am PT…
That’s rather cruel, Big K. In Japan or China or India, that sort of talk wouldn’t be out-of-place anywhere, least of all a sacred space.
Be aware that you’re framing your opinion in the experience that you are currently… Experiencing. Your religious values create different perceptions than one who shares… Different religious values. That sounds reptitive, but it’s true.
Lydia’s actually speaking from a very Hindu place (Samkara’s views on it, mainly), so this isn’t such a weird thing to hear anywhere outside of the U.S.
COMMENT #299 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/10/2005 @ 1:59 am PT…
Ms. Cornell,
I asked these very simple questions:
“When did your life begin? At what moment do you think all genetic information is in place to create a human life? Does God consider it a sin to intentionally snuff out innocent human life?”
Your response:
“…Man was made in God’s image, which is spiritual. Since the human body seems to be made of finite matter or dust (as in �we return to dust�) then the actual body is not that important. You cannot kill spirit. So putting so much emphasis on the fetus as �life� when the body itself does not contain �life� the soul does, is wrong to me. Soul never dies, cannot be killed, is at-one-with God…”
…I am absolutely sure of the answers to these questions. But I don’t want to impose my discoveries on you without some background, and this is not the place… [Of course abortion is a sin, but I can’t actually state that because then all my liberal buddies would ostracize me, or even worse, accuse me of being a right-wing nut, and there goes my acting career.]
This is how your response sounds to me using my “primitive” thought processes; kindly allow me to attempt to paraphrase the essence of your answer:
Freedom Fan, you have asked me the wrong question. God doesn’t really care about whether a person takes an innocent life, since the soul is all that matters. God does not really define sin anywhere except in that bogus Ten Commandments stuff, which was all superseded by Jesus when God changed his mind in 0 AD.
Besides, you Conservatives are inconsistent hypocrites because you moan endlessly about abortion, yet support soldiers who kill other soldiers or accidentally kill civilians in the course of defending of their homeland and loved ones from vicious tyrants. True, the Old Testament states that God blessed the armies of King David and other righteous leaders, but that war thang also became obsolete with the birth of Jesus.
I’m being consistent because whether or not a person is killed by another in any manner for any reason is irrelevant; his soul endures regardless. So lose the nattering about abortion, war, capital punishment, and other boring topics already. It just does not matter a whit. The important thing is that I think positive thoughts, read the Bible, love everyone except Ann Coulter, and imagine wonderful things in my head because that, after all, is the only reality. You Conservatives will never understand; this higher realm of metaphysical thinking is beyond your Neanderthal level of comprehension.-Freedom Fan (channeling Lydia Cornell)
Forgive me if you feel I misunderstand your thinking; please set me straight. It�s just that my mind requires consistency (the �hobgoblin of small minds� I know) in order to function.
Love,Freedom Fan
COMMENT #300 [Permalink]… Kevin said on 12/10/2005 @ 2:34 am PT…
Freedom Fan, I think what she’s trying to state is that her version of God does not define anything as a ‘sin,’ for She is All Things, and therefore requires nothing to be happy. There is nothing you can do to offend Him, because She has nothing to require of you– what could He, being One Thing Everywhere? Therefore, there is no ‘sin,’ because there is nothing that somehow harms the ego of her God-figure, because her God-figure has no ego to be harmed. What she is stating, and forgive me if I’m off, is that, to her, there is no Absolute Morality governing everything, and therefore nothing to debate about ‘sin’ or ‘absolutely morally wrong.’ However, this doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t make our /own/ choices about what works and doesn’t work in our society given what we’re trying to be, do, or have, but it just means that there’s no one ‘up there’ that requires us to feel one way or the other or face consequences.
COMMENT #301 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/10/2005 @ 8:46 am PT…
Kevin,
You’re correct that moral relativism is a central tenet of the Secular religion of Liberals. What I don’t get is how one can possibly reconcile that stance with devout Christianity. Obviously Christ talked about sin; it is one of the main themes of the Bible. How can one believe the Bible, yet maintain that there is really no such thing as absolute good and evil?
Moral relativism essentially states that something is good or evil depending on the circumstances; how I “feel” at the moment will establish right or wrong. We must never criticize anything as “evil” because that would be “judgemental” and demonstrate that we are not “open minded”. (Every time I hear the phrase “open minded” I picture someone’s head with a massive hole allowing his brains to slide onto the floor, but I digress.)
This nonsense does not “work” for a Conservative. Things must be pretty much black or white; true or false. While Conservatism elevates the individual above any social group, it never maintains that the universe revolves around an individual and his feelings. Man is subordinate to God; God exists regardless of whether an individual chooses to believe in Him. Similarly, reality and truth exist independent from an individual’s subjective mental illusions; only perceptions of reality change from person to person.
It seems to me that the whole point of religion is to establish moral principles before one actually needs to use them.
COMMENT #302 [Permalink]… Big K said on 12/10/2005 @ 9:44 am PT…
Kevin,
I have studied other religions and agree that some of her thoughts seem to be consistent with Hindu and Buddhist ideas, I take no issue there. What I do have an issue with is her assertion that abortion is ok because we do not kill the spirit of the thing. Thinking this through to conclusion you must arrive at a place where killing of any kind is alright for the same reason. The argument of more or less destructiveness becomes moot point. Even the proponents of the view that the child would not be wanted or cared for has some merit. At least that denotes some introspective, that the person is not strong enough to handle the consequences of their actions. That can be worked with. But this, there is no bright light at the end of that tunnel. It is honestly the stupidest argument for abortion I have ever heard.
Lydia, I suggest you look very seriously at Christ again. He was a decisive man, there was no conflict in Him. He never said, hey, I don�t like this but�.. And that is half your argument with abortion. No one likes it, but hey, what are we going to do?
I had to clarify, that post yesterday took me off guard. I had to read it a few times. I had more respect for her before that post, and just could not believe what I was reading.
Again, Merry Christmas. See you all around.
COMMENT #303 [Permalink]… Freedom Fan said on 12/10/2005 @ 10:27 am PT…
I can’t imagine Christ taking a look at a secular leader taking his largest lifetime contributions from an outfit like Enron, which was the case for Presiden
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