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STELTER: More so than Trump — more so than Trumpism, Sarah? ELLISON: Culture wars are something that unified the audience, with a sort of divided Republican Party right now, it’s a great message for Fox News to dive into the culture wars in the way they have been, and Rupert knows that, and he’s been somebody who has profited off that for a very long time. STELTER: Is he still holding his nose about Trump? You know, they had a mutually beneficial relationship that devolved and fell apart. Do you see him trying to avoid Trumpism in some ways? ELLISON: Well, it was interesting. He did always resent the hold Trump had on elements of Fox News, and he likes the ability for Fox to appear and be independent in its thinking. I think that now, what’s happened though, is that Trump has a sway over a large part of the Republican Party. And there’s been something created there that Rupert doesn’t really have control of, which is why I bring up the culture wars, because that’s something that does appeal to everyone. It is the most unifying part of that message, and I think that he likes the power that Fox can have apart from Trump, but Trump is the elephant in the room and he’s not going away. STELTER: He is the Frankenstein, as you’ve said and I have written, and will continue to be for some time to come. Diana, thank you for coming on. Oliver and Sarah, please stick around for later in the hour. Coming up here, banner headlines about the Senate approving the $1.9 ANDIEZ Some Girls are Just Born with Music and Dancing in Their Souls Poster trillion in aid for an ailing nation. But are journalists doing a good job explaining its potential impact? And why is this American journalist about to go on trial? A top news executive is here to explain what’s gone wrong with Iowa. That’s next. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) [11:18:48] STELTER: This is a scene you should not expect to see in the United States. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDREA SAHOURI, IOWA JOURNALIST: I was saying, you know, I’m press, I’m press, I’m press. Police literally took me, I’m just doing my job as a journalist. (END VIDEO CLIP) STELTER: “Des Moines Register” reporter Andrea May Sahouri was arrested in May while covering a Black Lives Matter protest. She was pepper sprayed and detained and charged with failure to disperse and interference with official acts. She was one of many journalists arrested last May and June. Most of the charges, most of those cases were dropped, but not in this case. The fact that these misdemeanor charges are still pending and that there’s a trail set to begin on Monday is stunning to many press freedom advocates. It’s created a lot of concern across the country.
So, joining me now to talk about this case and what’s going to happen is Maribel Perez Wadsworth. She’s the publisher of “USA Today” and the president of news at Gannett Media, which owns the “Des Moines Register” and other newspapers. So, Maribel, you’re trying to draw attention to this case. What has happened so far? Why is this actually moving to trial? MARIBEL PEREZ WADSWORTH, PRESIDENT, NEWS AT GANNETT MEDIA: It’s really inexplicable. I appreciate you having me on this morning. The fact that in the heat of the moment, one can argue that perhaps, you know, the police didn’t understand, even though as you heard her, she’s very clear that she’s identifying herself. [11:20:04] She’s following the instructions of the police at the time. The fact that in that moment, perhaps, they didn’t understand fully she was a working journalist can be understandable. Nine months later, it is simply inexcusable that she’s still facing these charges and going to trial tomorrow. STELTER: Is there any chance this will be resolved before tomorrow? It sounds like it’s not. WADSWORTH: Goodness, it sure hasn’t seemed that way. For reasons that just escape us, the county attorney in Des Moines, the police have seemingly dug in their heels and have — STELTER: Well, ANDIEZ Some Girls are Just Born with Music and Dancing in Their Souls Poster that’s because they say she looked like she was participating. That she wasn’t wearing a press credential. It seemed like she was participating in the protest. Is there anything to that? WADWORTH: No. No, that’s simply not true. She was — she was absolutely working. She had been at another protest nearby before attending this one and covering it. She had another colleague of hers, another reporter at the “Des Moines Register”, who was also nearby, who vouched for her, who explained she was on assignment. There’s absolutely no question that she was a working journalist at the time. STELTER: Here’s the big picture story from the U.S. Press Freedom Tracker showing the arrests of journalists in the midst of their jobs covering protests has risen markedly in the past few years. Now, that is partly because of the uprising last May and June. You see 127 arrests and detainments in the U.S. In 2020. Are protests the most dangerous place in America for journalists now? WADSWORTH: I think they absolutely are. And I think one of the other key stats from the U.S. Press freedom tracker is that among those arrested, more than a third are actually assaulted in the process of that arrest. So this is absolutely a significant issue. And one we’re going to have to address.
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